What's going on? Scrappage Scheme Tragedy!

[Ollieh17]

[b16a2]

240bhp mate

Yet he still pulled away? I didn't realise they were that quick lol

[Ollieh17]

Yet he still pulled away? I didn't realise they were that quick lol

535Ds are very quick for a diesel...very quick for a saloon tbf. My step dad has one remapped and the torque is mental.

[b16a2]

Ive been in a standard one it felt quick but that not quick

[1991 starlet owner]

Ive been in a standard one it felt quick but that not quick

They must be quick for the size and weight of the things.

Tom

[b16a2]

Don't get me wrong it felt quick but nowhere near as quick as a td04 glanza

[Ollieh17]

They don't feel quick because of the refinement etc...watch the speedo and it flys up!!

[Addymk2]

The thing is when you take the cost of finance into account on top of insurance/fuel they're more expensive to run...

[1991 starlet owner]

Yeah I get what you're saying lads, but from my personal point of view really a starlet for me should be a second / track / weekend car rather than a day to day runner. Daily runners get pounded on the shite roads we all have and by the weather. I'm in the market for something more comfy with all the trimmings etc, but that doesn't mean I'm not a petrol head or mechanically minded it's just a difference in circumstances doing more miles etc. I would like another starlet in the future as they are great fun but just not quite right for me at the moment which is why I'm selling it.

Tom.

[daniel_g]

Moving back towards the scrappage scheme point, i remember that episode of Top Gear with the aerial image of the airfield and it just being covered in decent looking motors, really was a shame, i bet a shit load of really rare cars met their end through that scheme

[davehart]

You don't see many classic cars on the road these days. I never understand why young lads get 15k VXR's when they could get something a lot more powerful for a fraction of the cost and have some spare money to put to better things

[shorty]

Im selling up atm to fund my house and will be buying a 535d touring next year (im nearly 30 though) they are very quick cars but no where near the fun level of earlier cars. I was explaining this to my bro the other day. Is a huge margin between old and new carss. Older cars are a drivers car as is far more feel and feed back on the road. New cars are just effortless to drive. Certianly not half as fun tbh. But alot are a far more practical car in the sense of estates or big saloons

[1991 starlet owner]

Yeah I totally agree, it is a real shame there aren't more classic cars, like the 205s, cosies etc but also what I find being 21 the insurance is so much cheaper on newer cars because their safety ratings etc. For me a real nice starlet for maybe £4000ish is well over £2000 to insure, where a bmw 330d or similar is £995 a year and has 300ftlb torque as standard.

Tom.

[Mikeyallgood85]

The newest car I've ever owned was 96 lol, My view is the more mod cons the more things to go wrong! New cars all look the same to me there isn't any character in the looks imo.

[Ep'd]

Some of these 535d's run over 720 pounds of torque when remapped. Here is a 535d vs m5

>http://youtu.be/ibvb3rF8Yi8

Edited November 11, 2013 by Ep'd

[richglanzav]

sorry but unless it was like a 60mph+ roll lol to get beat in a 240bhp starlet vs a diesel 535d no offence but the starlet driver would have to be pressing the wrong pedal

[daniel_g]

Contraversial as ever Rich haha.

[b16a2]

Some of these 535d's run over 720 pounds of torque when remapped. Here is a 535d vs m5

>http://youtu.be/ibvb3rF8Yi8

These m5s weigh around 1800kg so to about 100 they are not much quicker than e46 m3

[morgey]

Here we go

[Ep'd]

These m5s weigh around 1800kg so to about 100 they are not much quicker than e46 m3

M5 it's a diesel mate?

[Ep'd]

sorry but unless it was like a 60mph+ roll lol to get beat in a 240bhp starlet vs a diesel 535d no offence but the starlet driver would have to be pressing the wrong pedal

You ever raced one to prove it bud? We can talk statistics all day. I know how to drive I've tracked in a lot of cars quicker than my starlet. For a diesel they are quick that's all I'm saying.

Edited November 11, 2013 by Ep'd

[Ep'd]

Anyway lets keep on topic

[Jamie5414]

Yes it's very funny to hear them bragging about their mum and dad's new financed car for them too. "I turn my lights off and follow the cats eyes on the road for fun sometimes" At this point I am about to throttle them haha. WTF cats eyes are REFLECTIVE not LIGHTS on the road

[b16a2]

M5 it's a diesel mate?

Guess you misunderstood what im trying to say

My point is the m5 that remapped 535d is racing is not much quicker than a e46 m3 and td04 should have much trouble beating the m3 or m5

[AndyH]

All im going to say is im sick of middle aged blokes going around in company BMW's, Audi's, and Merc's thinking they own the road... I have a skyline as my weekend toy and where ever I go there is always a 40-50 year old in a BMW normally a 13 plate trying to race me.. maybe a little off topic but I hope some of you agree and understand what i mean.. lol