just to be clear, i aint on any bandwagon lol. it just irritates me when in debates like this, simple questions are asked and they are just swept under the carpet with a big essay of a response. like a politicians answer to anything. bottom line is its a simple resolution. lights arrive broken, receiver contacts sender to let him know, sender says the courier have broken them they were fine when they left me, sender takes it up with courier. simples. if bens just been dopey or slow about it and he is genuine lad at heart then i honestly aplogise to him. but it just stinks of dodgyness the way theres pages and pages of essay replies but no simple answer to that simple question.