All sorted now Cheers Shorty, Feel so stupid the previous owner my mate from college said its got an aeriel just its not plugged in, so i thought yeah right cant be as simple as that, must be broken, 8months later had a look and just needed plugging in haha, so nice to have the radio ( somtimes) lol , is there any way to get around not having to have the aeriel up on the roof though for decent signal ?