Toby@ToyTuning.com Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Hi all,As some may know we have been developing dog engagement straight cut gear sets for both the C52 and C56 gearboxes (EP82 GT and EP91 Glanza V). These will provide maximum reliability for those with constant gearbox problems. Starlet 4efte gearboxes are a notorious weak point. They are perfectly good gearboxes when considering a stock car, as soon as you begin to push the limits they begin to ware very quickly. Whether you have a 200hp Starlet or a 400hp Starlet the box won't last forever and can be very costly to replace with OEM parts, more in fact than our gear sets. If you drive hard then this time scale will be seriously reduced. If you attend regular track days/qtr miles events then you will be well aware of the problems the boxes can cause. We know some of the high HP lads are going through gearboxes on a weekly basis so we hope this will answer your problems! The main advantages of these TT kits will be: - Straight cut gears to minimise power losses - Dog Engagement for maximum durability/strength to withstand your punishment! - Massive increase in shifting/gear changing time aiding accelerator and times - Options for both short and long ratio pending needs - Preciously made billet gears made to the highest standard - Involute gear tooth profiles optimised for each gear - Precise case hardening and shot peening - Complete kits with gears, hubs, shafts, fork, final drive and a direct fit to the C52/C56 Box - Specifically designed for the Starlets not a borrowed/copied design - Long term piece of mind for those replacing gearboxes after every event!We have designed two types of gear set, one short ratio gear set designed for the less powerful Starlets who need quicker acceleration for track days with a greater torque band to get you ahead of the field (3rd, 4th and 5th), without breaking gears from excessive hard driving. These are ideal for anyone running sub 250hp but each application will be different pending needs. The second gear set is a longer ratio set designed for the higher HP lads running from 250hp to 500hp. Traction, wheel spin, constant gear changing and gear damage can be a major problem when running high HP especially on the qtr mile/circuit. Fourth gear will see up to 160mph meaning you won't be shifting through the finish line aiding times immensely. Another key feature is gear changing time, these gear sets will allow for rapid shifting increasing acceleration tremedously. The strength and durability of these gears is top of the line meaning you can finally remove the notorious weak point.Each set will include 1st - 4th Dog Engagement Billet Straight Cut Gears which will also include the crown wheel and pinion. For 5th gear we can supply a Syncro Billet gear or a Dog Engagement Billet. We will be using a Syncro Billet 5th gear to give you some idea on what is needed, we don't feel the need for a dog 5th but it's totally up to you. Features of our gear sets include billet material of the highest quality, the latest involute gear tooth profiles optimised for each gear, turning and gear cutting on state of the art and sophisticated Mori Seiki/Liebherr CNC machines and very precise case hardening and shot peening as part of our normal production process.To give you an idea we have listed the terminal speeds of both sets, obviously this will differ slightly pending your own car/setup but this will give you a good idea. If you require exact ratios please ask, we would rather not post them here to avoid copying as these setups are very unique and have taken a long time:Short Ratio:1ST - 53.72 MPH2ND - 72.04 MPH3RD - 95.33 MPH4TH - 114.11 MPH5TH - 133.62 MPHLong Ratio:1ST - 50.43 MPH2ND - 78.96 MPH3RD - 115.80 MPH4TH - 161.17 MPH5TH - 183.93 MPHObviously this will differ depending on RPM limit, tire size, differential ratio etc but that will give you a good idea on what can be achieved. We will be doing a group buy on these with around a 10% saving. We are hoping to keep these under £2900.00 inc VAT, the Quaife Dog Engagement sets for the Corolla (not available for Starlets) are just over £3500.00 inc VAT and based on an exchange basis where as there are new sets, we don't require your box. These are also a direct fit and won't need modifications to the housing like the Quaife kits. These offer a nice saving for the same durability and benefits, with the added advantage with being specific for the Starlets.We will let you know how it all goes and start a GB as soon as we can as I know a few of you have been desperate for these. Below is a picture of the actual gear set and we will get some more on the way very soon.Best Regards,Toby Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobSR Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 ohh my god!!, they look nice...its great to see your doing stuff for stars that no one else is really doing with this, and your driveshafts etc ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Toby@ToyTuning.com Posted August 7, 2008 Author Share Posted August 7, 2008 Thanks Rob really apprecaite the feedback, just released our Toy Tuning Polyuretahne engine mount bush sets as well will post up the GB Hope all is well,Toby Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) any of these gearsets ever appear? cant see zisco advertising anything at the minute either. anyone any ideas for a upgraded box? Phil Edited December 7, 2015 by Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Christ! ToyTuning, thats going back a few years now. My current GT is still rocking an old sticker of his lol.As for the gearbox question... the E153 MR2 Turbo gearbox is quite strong, getting one to fit into a starlet isnt gonna be straight forward though.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ROTABOOST Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Lots of hopes for the kits but they never seem to materialise. Not sure how long my std box will last at 340 :/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richglanzav Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 would have thought it will be ok mate at around 300 its only when you start pushing mental power i think they start to shat their pants Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) They let go anywhere at any time above 260hp based on my experience Phil Edited December 7, 2015 by Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ROTABOOST Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I'm pretty sympathetic as far as launches etc go but either way time will tell lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glanzagee Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 any of these gearsets ever appear? cant see zisco advertising anything at the minute either. anyone any ideas for a upgraded box? Phil samsonas have pulled it out of there catalog but its worth asking them last time i asked this summer it was around 3000 euros with choice of FD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glanzagee Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 next year should be a good one for me going full seq Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bussey Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 any of these gearsets ever appear? cant see zisco advertising anything at the minute either. anyone any ideas for a upgraded box? PhilWepr and zisco both sell just the gearsets, both kits are around 3500 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glanzagee Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Phil you have a pm And for the rest of you here you go from a proper gearbox retailer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bussey Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Phil you have a pm And for the rest of you here you go from a proper gearbox retailer Price? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glanzagee Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 5 posts above Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ROTABOOST Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 £2178 if it's still around €3000 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 4460.50 euro I thinkPhil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bussey Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 £2178 if it's still around 3000Fudge me that's cheap!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JayJ Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 4460.50 euro I thinkPhil http://www.trtshop.eu/en/cars/drivetrain/gearboxes-gear-kits/93745_samsonas-toyota-starlet-corolla-mr2-c150-5-speed-dogbox-kit.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 http://www.trtshop.eu/en/cars/drivetrain/gearboxes-gear-kits/93745_samsonas-toyota-starlet-corolla-mr2-c150-5-speed-dogbox-kit.htmlThat's the place and in stock apparently Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 That's the place and in stock apparentlyPhil not the case Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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