Chris Green Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 I would take a feed off each runner as well. Will give you a more stable map sensor reading I may well do this then, it may well be the best option for trying to run it with the standard ECU. I know my 4age they have incorporated a vac mani into the throttle design, each one has a single feed on the under side which all join into one another and in turn feeds into it. This supplies the map sensor (still has a pulse reducer inline) and brake servo, then the two outer have another feed each. One for for and another for an idle valve or something on the underside of the throttles that i cant see.Im pretty sure theres also a feed to the throttle stop dampener on mine. I think the standard 4e MAP sensor has a pulse reducer in it. I should realistically only need lines for, the servo, MAP sensor & FPR. The two lines from the PAS rack will be blanked, same with the coolant lines and PCV valve vented to the catch can. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rmsnoel Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 The pcv valve should be ok undrilled otherwise it may draw oil easier, maybe use a fte rocker cover as at least it still has the internal baffle. The pcv valve itself is designed to slam shut if the engine backfires through the intake. So the valve stops your.oil going on fire lolMy vauxhall doesnt have a pcv valve or baffle it pumps oil into the catch can at a silly rate. Solving this by retro fitting a baffled catchcan. Google modern crankcase breathers.Morgey has the right idea on the vacc setup. We used 1 port on the 5e gsxr for servo and tee'd the rest to run the map but as the man said it wasnt stable enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rmsnoel Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 As for the throttle.cable we used a celica st cable as its a fair bit longer than the starlet one. We may or.may not have used a bike cable insert on it too though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Green Posted July 4, 2013 Author Share Posted July 4, 2013 The pcv valve should be ok undrilled otherwise it may draw oil easier, maybe use a fte rocker cover as at least it still has the internal baffle. The pcv valve itself is designed to slam shut if the engine backfires through the intake. So the valve stops your.oil going on fire lolMy vauxhall doesnt have a pcv valve or baffle it pumps oil into the catch can at a silly rate. Solving this by retro fitting a baffled catchcan. Google modern crankcase breathers.Morgey has the right idea on the vacc setup. We used 1 port on the 5e gsxr for servo and tee'd the rest to run the map but as the man said it wasnt stable enough. Will have a look into different setups for the PCV value. You rekon it won't run right due to the MAP sensor? Is there any way to get around this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rmsnoel Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 We tee'd the four runners together but didnt use a vaccumm manifold which we should have done.I see no problems with your setup Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Green Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) UPDATES I'll let the photos and videos do the talking! EDIT: Video didn't work, I'll youtube it! Edited July 6, 2013 by chrisgreen1993 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Sweet! Awaits in anticipation for video... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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morgey Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Sounds lush! Seems to be working well as well, how did you plumb the vac mani in the end? Had it out for a drive yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan-4E-FTE Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) Sounds very nice!! Edited July 6, 2013 by Bryan-4E-FTE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Green Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) Cheers dude Well, this is where it goes down hill. I can't drive it yet as I have no fees for the brake servo, I mounted the feed too closed to the fuel rail, so I have to blank it and make a new one. Didn't bother with the vacuum manifold, just took a feed from cylinders 3&4 and t-pieced them. I'm not going to take her for a drive now until the rings are done - due to the fact the smoke is not that bad! So, plan for this week, Mon, Tues & Wed - pull the engine back. Sat, Sun & Mon put the engine back in. Cheers Bryan! Edited July 6, 2013 by chrisgreen1993 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Ahh im quite suprised it runs as well as that tbh but hey cant complain Will defo be worth it now! Bet your geared up a bit now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Green Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 Ahh im quite suprised it runs as well as that tbh but hey cant complain Will defo be worth it now! Bet your geared up a bit now? I was uber surprised, that was with the TPS's as well, just plugged in. Yeah, I've got the love back after today, it's given me the motivation to get her sorted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Haha mega! Nice when things like that happen.Good im glad to hear that, i want to see what this thing can do!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Green Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 I can't wait either! The next week is going to be horrible though! So, plan of action, order head bolts & rings, get the engine out, re-bored and back in a week! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Green Posted July 7, 2013 Author Share Posted July 7, 2013 Round 2 has begun! Well Vettle qualified first, so didn't see much point in watching the F1. I though there is no point in fannying about get her back on the road ASAP. So operation stip down began! Up early the morning and began stripping her down, massive ballache due to the fact she was only part back together a couple of months ago. Anyway photos! http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/cgreen1993/media/WP_20130707_001_zps384a3601.jpg.html'> http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/cgreen1993/media/WP_20130707_001_zps384a3601.jpg.html'> http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/cgreen1993/media/WP_20130707_002_zps3536232f.jpg.html'> http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/cgreen1993/media/WP_20130707_003_zpscd6c30d7.jpg.html'> http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/cgreen1993/media/WP_20130707_004_zps7355febf.jpg.html'> http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/cgreen1993/media/WP_20130707_005_zpsd99138c7.jpg.html'> http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/cgreen1993/media/WP_20130707_006_zps6c9dc3cd.jpg.html'> http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/cgreen1993/media/WP_20130707_007_zps88f763cb.jpg.html'> http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/cgreen1993/media/WP_20130707_008_zps60b8588c.jpg.html'> http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/cgreen1993/media/WP_20130707_009_zps8801d13b.jpg.html'> http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/cgreen1993/media/WP_20130707_010_zps3d1ca37a.jpg.html'> http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/cgreen1993/media/WP_20130707_012_zpsd9dc33a5.jpg.html'> http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/cgreen1993/media/WP_20130707_013_zpsa954ac72.jpg.html'> http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/cgreen1993/media/WP_20130707_014_zps629b94ad.jpg.html'> http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/cgreen1993/media/WP_20130707_015_zpsd97fe142.jpg.html'> http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/cgreen1993/media/WP_20130707_016_zps9f67d200.jpg.html'> http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/cgreen1993/media/WP_20130707_017_zpsd0399040.jpg.html'> Tomorrow night I'll drop the pistons & rods out and re-hone the bored, shiny new parts ordered tonight. I have a few things away to be powder coated too. By the end of the week I should have a working car again Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rmsnoel Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 If your interested Im running an oversized oilfilter on my 4e, partnumber is in my build thread lad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Green Posted July 7, 2013 Author Share Posted July 7, 2013 If your interested Im running an oversized oilfilter on my 4e, partnumber is in my build thread lad Is there any benefits with an over sized one mate? Was planning on running a Greddy on as TRD ones are about £30 now! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rmsnoel Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Is there any benefits with an over sized one mate? Was planning on running a Greddy on as TRD ones are about £30 now!Yeah there £6 and and toyota technology same as trd I woulfnt waste £30 on a run in period oil filter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Green Posted July 8, 2013 Author Share Posted July 8, 2013 Yeah, I order two standard oil filters from ID-Workz today, where did you order the oversized one from? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rmsnoel Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Off the shelf at any local motorfactors. The standard one is only £2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Green Posted July 8, 2013 Author Share Posted July 8, 2013 I'll have a look for them when I'm picking up new fluids, could come in handy for running her in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Green Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 Been busy tonight, dropped the sump of and the pistons out. Turns out Smiths Engineering never replaced the big ends, mains and thrust. So more fecking work and expense! Best I found out sooner rather than later. Massive thanks to Idrees, ordered stuff yesterday afternoon and arrived today. Top service! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Green Posted July 11, 2013 Author Share Posted July 11, 2013 Well there isn't much to report at the moment, will be pulling the remainder of the engine out today. Will get it on to a stand and queue the music. All hands will be on deck tomorrow, thanks to the bank holiday, (a little perk of living in N.I.) and hope we have a running engine by tomorrow night. The big end shells arrive this morning, huge thanks to Tuning Developments, so no delays in the progress. I have starting painting a few bits up as they have got a bit manky, will post photos later. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Idrees Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 You're welcome Chris. Are you hoping to have it done by the end of the weekend? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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