Regarding the original post. Its just a hatret people have towards honda's its not just starlet owners. I bet the VW boys would give you just as much shit. Imo its jealousy, you cant knock hondas other than for there fairly cheaply put together interiors and use of materials and rust on the older ones. Mechanically they are proven to be the most reliable cars built (followed by toyota) They can build great chassis and have good suspension setups. They are like lego, parts chop and change from one model to another like no other car. The engines are on top of power/liter in n/a form, they can hold boost on a high comp n/a engine that would put most boosted engines to shame and they can do it reliably. All in all you have a great car. But its because of this thats puts people off, the the fact everyone has one and thinks they're the best thing since sliced bread gives us a reason to dislike them. And.. Everyone Fits stupid buddy club bean cans to them that sound like a wasp in a can through 10 megaphones (why you would want a car to sound like that i dont know) then have all the fanboys with the mugen stuff thats fugly as hell and hugely overpriced ranting about it even though its not the best on the market. Its just that you were looking in this area you clocked there to be a disliking toward the honda owner but its more of a general car owner thing than just us