ste91

No lol you got the wrong end of the stick there mate, it was just meant in general, you always see people on forums saying I kept up with {insert car here} in my .... but it doesn't really mean anything without knowing the full spec of each car as well as both driver's ability. I was just stating that the Civic chassis is "better" than the Starlet but that's not to say Starlets are incapable of going round corners, mine certainly wasn't! At the end of the day though it's more down to personal preference, I loved my Starlet but comparing it to a Civic, both cars with uprated suspension but the same tyres, when you get on the limit in the Starlet the front end tends to just wash out whereas in a Civic it feels more controllable, the back end feels alive compared to the Starlet which I think is down to the simple setup on them. I do like Starlets though, the main thing that gets me is the lightness, not many cars are really that light when you look into it. EP3's for example are easily over 1100+ kg infact I think they're more towards 1200kg.

A standard Glanza is about on par with a standard B16 Civic up to around 75mph where the Civic will start to pull away. B series are good engines, D series slow unless boosted. You'll need to be running decent power to keep with a K swapped or B20 Civic. Basically if you've got money to spend on tuning then a Glanza has more potential in the long run, unless you put a turbo on the Civic. Handling wise Hondas are generally better, especially the Type R's, I don't care if you think you kept up with one on the track in your Starlet with some coilovers, that was down to the driver. The Starlet chassis is very very basic and they need a few upgrades before they handle as good as a Civic. Front double wishbone and fully independant rear suspension vs the Starlet's rear beam. Brakes - Starlet brakes from my experience have been quite shit, most Hondas have 262mm front brakes as standard and are easily and cheaply upgraded to 282mm. If you have plenty of money to spend tuning a 4EFTE and some spare change to throw at some coilovers/rear ARB/etc... then go for a Glanza, if you just want to do some basic mods - induction kit/exhaust/supension and leave it at that then get a Civic. I'd rather have a B18 Civic than a CT9 Glanza. Start talking TD04's and I'd quickly change my mind.