dean i am not on about collapsing its the other isseu of the seals leaking on the rods making the shock ly dead on its springs turning the car in a death trap on b roads my last set only lasted 1 year or so id say when you live somewhere where the roads are like snooker tables it will be perfect but ruf roads and they wont last pissing time i deleted the budget content as i think its not worth it will update it in a whiile for the better brands>>cars you only did the rears ?