gorganl2000 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Turbo topz, there are differents of quality, depends on where you buy them. They often have 3 differents quality. Chops, yes yes, you try boost 33psi on those fhe rods, i dare you coincidentally, i know someone who runs 30+psi on 5efhe rods for drag racing...i'd have to check the rev limit used, but i suspect not much beyond stock however, i'd not do it, but it seems it can be done for what the op wants, i think forged rods are the best bet i cant speak for the rods in question, but if they handle 33psi and 1.6psi/8000rpm, it seems they can take some pressure/revs how long have you guys been running these rods? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) coincidentally, i know someone who runs 30+psi on 5efhe rods for drag racing...i'd have to check the rev limit used, but i suspect not much beyond stockhowever, i'd not do it, but it seems it can be done for what the op wants, i think forged rods are the best bet i cant speak for the rods in question, but if they handle 33psi and 1.6psi/8000rpm, it seems they can take some pressure/revs how long have you guys been running these rods?Gorgan, I ran the cheap rods for quite some Milage at decent revs on a high comp 4e making 265 @ 1bar td04 (as you well know you tgtt man you )Until my expensive billet cams fell apart and somewhat ruined the engine.Ran like this for yonks loved the revs.Get whatever rods you can', weigh they up get them matched and then balance the bottom end assembly together.And youll have as good an engine as any and better than most. Phil Edited June 30, 2014 by Philm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Quimby Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Well, i have seen people break fhe rods here in denmark, never seen any break those china rods. Those we use here, are so big, that you have to modifi the blok to fit them. Beside pauter, they are all made in china Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 why? i know the 5e isnt the perfect base engine, being never even designed to be dohc in the first place, but i dont think it would take that much to have a build like what im proposing work. as a plater fabricator by trade, i can make the physical parts of the build id need such as all the custom manifolds and what not myself. The idea comes from a dude on the micra sports club forums doing a compound charged build on a k11 cg13de, its not an impossible build by any means. my biggest worry is how ill get an ecu to fuel it. http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g240/porkstar5000/Snapbucket/7564E287_zpsfa32bd58.jpg tripplexxx from germany did this on a p8 starlet 5e big turbo and big chaaarger he is on toc and tgtt if you want info Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gorganl2000 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Gorgan, I ran the cheap rods for quite some Milage at decent revs on a high comp 4e making 265 @ 1bar td04 (as you well know you tgtt man you )Until my expensive billet cams fell apart and somewhat ruined the engine.Ran like this for yonks loved the revs.Get whatever rods you can', weigh they up get them matched and then balance the bottom end assembly together.And youll have as good an engine as any and better than most.Phil lol, yes ttgt to the world i'm not much into brand name, i'm into reliability and good quality stuffon the high end sometimes you can end up paying for a "name"while on the low end you can sometimes end up suffering from poor qualitybut it doesn't mean that everything expensive is good and everything cheaper is bad this is kind of a never ending debate, some people will swear by popular brands, some people will take a chance with cheaper stuffeveryone will have to do their research and weight the risks, then make their own decision Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chops Posted June 30, 2014 Author Share Posted June 30, 2014 Well, i have seen people break fhe rods here in denmark, never seen any break those china rods. Those we use here, are so big, that you have to modifi the blok to fit them. Beside pauter, they are all made in china I was wondering if other brands might be the case, huge markup for nothing more than a brand name. tripplexxx from germany did this on a p8 starlet 5e big turbo and big chaaarger he is on toc and tgtt if you want info cheers for the heads up, though im kinda depressed to know its already been done now lol, yes ttgt to the world i'm not much into brand name, i'm into reliability and good quality stuff on the high end sometimes you can end up paying for a "name" while on the low end you can sometimes end up suffering from poor quality but it doesn't mean that everything expensive is good and everything cheaper is bad this is kind of a never ending debate, some people will swear by popular brands, some people will take a chance with cheaper stuff everyone will have to do their research and weight the risks, then make their own decision got a wise man once said quote here lol, though it is completely true. tripplexxx from germany did this on a p8 starlet 5e big turbo and big chaaarger he is on toc and tgtt if you want info Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chops Posted June 30, 2014 Author Share Posted June 30, 2014 tripplexxx from germany did this on a p8 starlet 5e big turbo and big chaaarger he is on toc and tgtt if you want info I've had absolutely no luck finding anything on this, a link would be much appreciated bud! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
karl. Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) I've had absolutely no luck finding anything on this, a link would be much appreciated bud! http://www.ukstarletowners.com/topic/77306-help-with-comp-ratio/?hl=%2Bhelp+%2Bwith+%2Bcomp+%2Bratio Edited June 30, 2014 by karl. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richardc9052 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 There is a guy in Ireland with one done aswell.. He used an ep90 5 door starlet and it's his daily.. Think it's running over 400bhp and the turbo is so big it shouldn't spool on a starlet but the supercharger sorts that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Quimby Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Gorganl2000, like i said before, they often have 3 different quality, also with turbo, those on ebay, you have to be careful Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I've had absolutely no luck finding anything on this, a link would be much appreciated bud! ere i located the thread on toc.irl :) http://www.toyotaownersclub-irl.com/t55486-toyota-starlet-black-beauty-from-germany-almost-finished Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chops Posted June 30, 2014 Author Share Posted June 30, 2014 lol suddenly everyones done a compound build, its old news lol. slightly annoyed with that, but it wasnt to go running around screaming look at me look at me anyway. that german dudes build looks mad lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
triple j Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I would like to no more about these rods, anyone using them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
triple j Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cAHpmldufdMCould this be the factory, there whackin them out lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akyakapotter Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cAHpmldufdMCould this be the factory, there whackin them out lol.Easy as that lol just throw them on the floor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) Once upon a time I had the Chinese factory's number. Phone talk in engrish for abit until 'Jin' was brought to the phone Then make an order direct with him. No fancy crap names like max speeding or tuner R Just a brown box an some grease coated rods from Jin marked test item RDUK ran a set and sold some others.Would never pay for scat or eagle or THS or tmd etc etc Bit like td injectors. May as well buy them yourself at a fraction of the price.Phil Edited June 30, 2014 by Philm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Easy as that lol just throw them on the floor Zero fucks givin way of making rods haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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