If you want 5k then ask for 5k, at the end of the day these wee cars are only worth what us owners sell them at, I think a standard one is worth 3.5 - 4 easy but getting someone to buy it at that money would mean everyones starlets need to go up to around that figure, which I can see happening in the future! I remember when the ae86 corolla over here could be got for 4 or 5k, now you would be lucky yo get one for 7 or 8! Lol. Just my input/opinion glwts matey