Not that im trying to start fights but, ricky sells manifolds, sikillamart sells manifolds, iddy stocks wepr manifolds etc. James and jd do cad style products. a trader was turned down for cf works because dean does cf. just think a bit of healthy compitition in products and traders isnt a bad thing. and as thiers already so many manifold suppliers on here i dont think the traders not crossing over works very well lol. equaly its a good example of how a wider choice for the comunity hasnt cuased harm for traders or buyers and if anything a wider choice is better for the members? Not trying to upset or start a major disscusion. i just thought id mention cross overs are already pressent and 90 traders offering a vast amount of products even if some are simlar is better than 9 who offer seprate things? No? Appolagese if I've rocked a boat.