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I'll sort you a gearbox I've got loads here. Very low milage boxes. I've got 2x Paseo boxes that are kick ass I'm yet to identify there Toyota C series number.

Yep it will bolt up. 4efte to your E11 standard box. Thanks for the picture dutchie. Yeh the drive shaft length is different from the starlet factory lsd box it will not fit the corrola.

I'd just use your box at that price. At a later date we could sort a nice gearbox out that houses an lsd unit. If you decide this is what you need. In my opinion the corollas come with the best boxes. The Yaris c54 looks good but I recon it will top out at around 120mph. I'm going to get 1 and a Yaris c53 d4d box and swap 5th. It will bolt upto the 4efte no issues. Just change the gear oil with good quality oil, change this after 6month, to flush the box.

Personally I'd just use your gearbox I've found afew differences also the gear cable bracket on the gearbox is different on the c56/c52 turbo box. It looks like it swaps over but I can't say for sure. Your E11 box is no stronger or weaker, just high mileage.

Tidy bay. From what I'm reading yours is a c57 The c54 came In the early Yaris 1.5 vvti from what I've read. I'm not sure if they accept the c52/c56 lsd. From what I've read it's requires swaping the bell housing. I'll find out all information on this. I'll just look into it more for you to pinpoint your box. Im under the impression it's a c57. 200000km is big milage. Some info on the g6 swap https://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/topic/136040-e11-five-to-six-speed-gearbox-swap/ From what I can see the c56 also came in the corrola. This box will come with a glanza engine. The difference between the c56 and c57 is the gearbox end caps, the c56 is cast aluminium, the c57 is folded formed steel black in colour. If you have a aluminium end cap get a gearbox with the 4efte engine there the same gearbox. I got this information that yours could possibly have a c56 box. I got this information off wikipedia!!!. So for me personally I'd be very surprised if it has a 4efe corrola would struggle with this box. I'm expecting you to tell me you have a black end cap. Alot of the ratios are wrong also on Wikipedia. What is the price difference buying the engine with/without the gearbox.

The 4efe box is not weaker, and a better box for the heavier corrola on a 4efte. What milage has your box covered? Is it high, if so putting power threw it will probably result in a failure. The corrola c series boxes are probably the best ratio boxes out there, but you need a relatively low milage box. The c54 box I think can house a aftermarket c56/c52 4efte lsd unit. I'll confirm this The C60 boxes in the g6/g6r can also house the turbo aftermarket lsd units. The g6 box is a direct bolt on option the g6r requires the a bell housing swap. Ultimately a reconditioned unit would be the best option. These boxes have the best ratios for acceleration also not loading the engine as much. The turbo boxes will probably be low milage most jap imports are. These boxes to me are overgear for safety to reduce the starlets ability to accelerate. I think they new these cars would be trouble in the wrong hands. It also enhances turbo boost build by loading up the engine (long gears). Now with the corrola being heavier adding load and long loading gears (4efte box), this gives me the chills. Boost would hit hard fast but the engine would struggle to accelerate. Requiring higher hp a recipe for high temps and failure. But it's up to you.

Good insight. I don't think the young Japanese lad is a "HOTSHOT". I've been following f2 and he's been there when it matters to pick up the needed points. QJW5XCjuOng 46G impact massive.

Thanks for the reply: no mine has not got them fitted. What year is yours?. I'm on a "97".

Very well said. I've turned mine down abit from 250ish hp to around 220hp as my 0 to 60mph times started to fall away with the control factor also impacted with the hard hit/surge in power. At 220hp the car is crazy capable plus it will last along time. Mine is not forged, I don't think needs to be. I have no doubt that the 100 to 140mph times were better at 250hp but the simple fact I'm not aiming or wanting to take the starlet over 100mph on the street and 120mph on track. I have a gtx17 here for my 5e build that's going on big cams. Zero lag full rpm of pull.

Fantastic dutchie. Great work. I'm glad you got a build thread on here also.

Great progress. Action pics, this is why we do what we do. Pollen filters??? NO WAY DID I KNOW THESE CARS HAD THESE. I have a cd model will mine have them?? If so we're are they located.

I second that, this is one of the best looking GT turbos I've seen on here.

Welcome. I do love black. She looks good. Remember to share your progress and starlet experiences with us all. I think good things and new starlet records will be set with some of these lads builds, there are some very capable cars being made.

Absolutely loving this. Great videos.

That does look very very well.

Really nice and neat quality work. How much are the cams costing and ho are doing them?. Please I'm building a 5e on a gt17 Garrett but I might go SPRINTEX on it and need some higher rpm powered cams.

Meaty rods. Looking smart. You will love it. I spot weilded the sir clips on the end of the main shaft. There known for coming loose and droping off.

Does look good.

Waw max power. Now your showing your age.

The factory lsd gearbox out of the GT turbo or glanza will not fit the corrola, but are a much sort after item (great resale) but it needs the right side drive shaft with the box . this drive shaft is shorter than the standard factory drive shaft, and production has been discontinued from what I've read. The turbo box is no stronger from what I've seen opening them. I've opened a c56 glanza gearbox against the UK starlet gearbox. the lighter glanza v gearboxes gear set would not be suited for the corollas weight and I removed this box sharpish when I ran it. It's long gears load the engine and hamper acceleration. The combination of added weight and this gearbox makes me shudder inside alittle, But again there would be a good resale for the gearbox in the future. The c54 gearbox would be a much better gearbox for your car if you can get 1. I believe travstar on here has just rebuild the c54 gearbox I'll inquire which led units fit this box. I'm running the g6/g6r gearbox and it's another very good option, but these might be considered weaker as 6th gear and the final drive have a slightly narrower gear, but much better bearing set as well as the gear/final drive remove load from the engine, why they came in the small cc engines heavy corollas. The c54 is the stronger 5 speed equivalent. The g6 and g6r gearboxes can house the aftermarket lsd units from TRD, Cusco, kaz produced for the GT turbo and glanza gearbox. Using the 4efte box has the added benafit of future developmet (aftermarket lsd units). They also hit some of the highest speeds/quarter mile. In short use a corrola gearbox these are alot better for road speed ranges in the heavier vehicle than starlet, GT turbo, glanza v boxes.

It could be along wait the factory lsd gearbox was rare optional extra. The right side drive shafts will not fit to the E11 corrola from the glanza lsd gearbox but if you can get the box and drive shaft you could sell them separately for around £500.

I've been messaged on the Toyota owners site from a lad in the UK ho has fitted the 4efte power inlet manifold to his E11 corrola. He has mentioned a difference in the idle control valves on the 4efte and E11 4efe, also the throttle bodies are a slightly different shape, the throttle body off the 4efe e11 bolts onto the 4efte manifold but overhangs on the bottom edge by afew mm leading to a leak. The way he fixed this was to make a spacer plate of flat 2mm thick aluminium cut to the shape of the 4efe throttle body. This sandwiches in-between the throttle body and manifold sealing things. Because of your engine control unit you need to run the 4efe throttle body. The 4efte idle valve will also want to be removed along with the vacuum chamber/pipe it's attached to located/bolted to the rear face of the 4efte manifold. You will have to tape/thread the hole the 4efte idle valve locates into the 4efte manifold and fit a blanking plug sealing the manifold. I'll post up pictures of the 4efte idle valve and vacume chamber.

I'd really like to do 1 of these in the not to distant future. They do look well for there age. Loving that sound system. Toyota do it right.

Just a quick add to the pump convo. We have noticed a reduction in the upper level of injector duty against hp at 1bar of boost on the hyb tdo4 the injectors was at 80% on the dual pumps, it was close to 90% duty on a single pump. 4bar rail pressure on 372cc injectors gives people what they need to work out predicted hp levels of the engine at 1bar and working on a percentage of increased engine power, you can work out predicted hp on .5bar of boost. But I feel we have concentrated to much on this area in the chats recently. There is alot that has being altered and introduced. If anything its allowed us to run the injectors safer/increasing the service life.

Thanks Im not far out side of London alot of the time.