Some of you guys might have seen these kicking about, they seem popular in the civic world basically you just pop off the spring, sit the adjuster on the spring, tighten it down with o rings, then this gives you adjustable purch that you can wind up to lower the car. a guide to install is here/>http://www.d-series.org/forums/diy-forum/125720-diy-coilover-sleeve.html Anyways, set of these are very cheap on the bay/>http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Blue-Adjustable-coilovers-Sleeves-88-00-Civic-Del-Sol-Ek-EG-1-3-Lowering-Kit-/260861677282?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cbc914ee2 Could something like this be used on a standard strut or a kyb strut to lower a starlet cheaply? Anyone got any photos or measurements? Anyone that could get the measurement for both to compare? Im not asking the question about ride quality, and obviously you would have to look into spring rates, however they are designed for small, front engine hatch so they could possiblly be ok out the box. Anyone have any ideas/experience opinions?