^^^^yeah, back in the day, it was like "oh wow dude, u has carat lights, ubes rare y0". but then, as i keep saying, we all have our different tastes here on UKSC which is great as it means no two EPs are the same which makes our club stands at shows look mega. so its all good. just never seen so much carat hates before. maybe its the colour of them thats the difference. maybe in white they are rank. i dunno. still, interesting how tastes are evolving on here, interesting to watch, good to see things aren't stagnant. Phil.