m11xky Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 (edited) Which manifold do you prefer???Mike Edited May 17, 2012 by m11xky Quote
MARC MOSS Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 voted mild dude, every stainless mani i have had has cracked..... My mild Zisco is the nuts Quote
Socks Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 ss...hate mild. unless heatwrapped looks shite..no rust ftw Quote
ste91 Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 ss...hate mild. unless heatwrapped looks shite..no rust ftwWho gives a shit what it looks like lol?The problem is most of the people that makes manifolds for Starlets is they use a cheap shit grade of stainless.Cast ftw Quote
Whitegv Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 My wepr mild steel one is top notch. only thing that could be changed is the angle the turbo sits at. would be nice to have the compressor housing facing the front of the car more instead of sitting in line with the block. i have heat wrapped it though i must add Quote
Jamie1st Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 Mild steel is what I'm going for next, not had much luck with my stainless manifold or screamer pipe Quote
m11xky Posted May 17, 2012 Author Posted May 17, 2012 Hmm...majority for mild steel atm....interesting!Keep the votes coming!! Mike Quote
rob_bower Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 ive also been pondering this and from what i can tell mild steel is the way forward unless you want to pay top end for a wepr or Racetech etc all down to budgetat the end of the day. Quote
Socks Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 People associate stainless with the shite u see on ebay lol.If made with a decent grade of stainless and made properly...Who gives a shit what it looks like lol?The problem is most of the people that makes manifolds for Starlets is they use a cheap shit grade of stainless.Cast ftwId care, if its covered in rust... Looks crap lol Quote
Johnboy GT Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 I can appreciate the quality of the build and the reliability of mild steel or cast. But a good kit like wepr or Racetech stainless just looks the dogs especially polished up!John Quote
m11xky Posted May 17, 2012 Author Posted May 17, 2012 So what is the difference betwenn the race-tech mani and the ebay stuff?quality of materials?, quality of welding joints?Has anyone had a Race-tech or wepr crack on them?I want to cover all bases with this....Mike Quote
td04 glanza Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 I must admit my zizco mild steel looks crap with rust but it is still going strong after a year at 260bhp so im going to heat wrap it;) best of both worlds Quote
Flaminsam Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 Agreed ^^^^Ceramic coat as much as physically possible. Mild is easy to work with plus its quite forgiving. Stainless looks amazing but it is a fine art to master how to bend and manipulate stainless. Quote
Amjad Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 WEPR mild TD04 is what I eventually want to run..top notch quality Quote
td04 glanza Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 Anyone no prices on zircotek ceramic coating? Quote
Starbuck Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 Had mild steel wepr CT9 before, going with mild steel wepr TD04 this time. Sure it rusts up a bit, nothing a wire brushing won't sort. But SS also loses its bling once the heat gets to it and has a tendancy to crack and not just the cheap toyosports ebay stuff as we've seen on Jamie1st setup and others. I see more stuff about SS problems than MS. Quote
Ryan-11 Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 (edited) mild steel for me, had 3 stainless steel manifolds and all 3 have cracked, had 2 wepr mild steel manifold and both have been solid. Edited May 17, 2012 by Ryan-11 Quote
Jamie1st Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 So what is the difference betwenn the race-tech mani and the ebay stuff?quality of materials?, quality of welding joints?Has anyone had a Race-tech or wepr crack on them?I want to cover all bases with this....MikeCheck my build thread, page 5 I think.. Quote
WallaceGlanza Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Anyone no prices on zircotek ceramic coating?More than the cost of the manifold itself in most cases.... Quote
Dave D Glanza V Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) Anyone no prices on zircotek ceramic coating?ive got a wepr mild steel tdo4 mani sending it off to be coated on weekend going to have the downpipe done maybe the turbo housing aswel Dear DavidThank you for your enquiry via our website. I apologise for not replying sooner.Zircotec® coatings are proven for application to a variety of materials providing a high performance ceramic thermal barrier coating, which improves the efficiency of exhausts and prevents local component and chassis damage from radiated heat. In recent testing surface temperatures were reduced by ~33% for our Performance Range with typical under bonnet temperature reductions of 30oC.Our coatings are not paints but ceramics applied using a plasma spraying process which ensures an extremely well adhered, durable coating with an extremely hard and durable surface that is highly resistant to vibration, mechanical damage and thermal shock. The full process, which is suitable for both new and used exhaust systems, consists of: masking where the coating is not required, surface preparation, spraying of base coat and finally spraying of ceramic thermal barrier coat. As we use plasma spraying process the coating is to the external surfaces only with no preparatory work required by you. The natural colour of our coating is white/cream, but many of our customers call for the very highest level of performance offered by Performance White™ but also require a coating with a finish that can be more easily maintained. To meet this need Zircotec has developed a range of high quality multi-coat colour finishes that are applied over the top of our standard plasma-sprayed ceramic. The full range of colours can be seen on the attached link (http://www.zircotec.com/page/-_performance_colours/47). Our Primary range is only available in a matt black finish.Regarding pricing; for a Toyota Starlet 4 cylinder compact manifold the cost to coat is £160 for Primary Black™; £228 for Performance White™ or £262 for any from our Performance Colours™ range. For the turbo housing the cost to coat is £91 for Primary Black™; £130 for Performance White™ or £150 for any from our Performance Colours™ range. For other pipes we charge by diameter and length, simply measure the entire pipe length and use the following table: Price per 30cms (£) Pipe diameter Primary Black™ Performance White™ Performance Colours™ < 50mm 29.00 42.00 48.30 < 75mm 33.00 47.00 54.05 <100mm 37.00 52.00 59.80 <150mm 50.00 72.00 82.80 Prices exclude shipping and VAT. Turnaround time is approximately 10 working days with payment accepted via credit card or bank transfer. Edited May 18, 2012 by Dave D Glanza V Quote
maddox710 Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 great thread,I've seen a few threads on other forums about mild vs stainless, mild always come out on top (y) Quote
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