5e colin Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) so me being a poor man i could never afford the big brand pro coilovers for my starlet so i went on a mission to find budget coild for my starlet so after months off research i came up with a closed match and they were old golf coils *so i put up a thread off it on toc and our moderator DJNR8 came to the resceuhe could provide me all the details i needed so he did he was strait on it emailing me the pictures and measurement *so first off i want to say thank you djnr8 for being there with mi od requests :) this is where i got them pm them tru ebay and request mk2 fronts and mk1 rears ( golf )http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-GOLF-MK1-Complete-Rear-Coilover-1x-unit-ONLY-/251385383078?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123so finally my ta technics coilovers arrived this morning there from mk1/2 golf fronts are mk2 and rears mk1 so strait away went digging up my old topmounts to try fitting them hoping they fit *:cheers:* yay they do strait bolt on we are in luck boys *they do knead small modifications but its only minor that could be done at home !!!!!here a quick pic with the topmounts on for now till i make some more detailed 1s about the mods needed on the bottom off the coils so taken some measurements *so here we go these are the bits u need they just unsrcew off the coils golf vs starlet mount starlet rear 32mmgolf mk1 rear 50mm !!!!!!!this is how much will come off off the sides still plenty left its this way we knead to file the hole down a bit think i will get my angle grinder out in a min. and trim the rear busheswell i cut the rear bottoms to size *warning to people using a angle grinder cough cough some really nasty stinking smell comes off it do not inhale like i did i am still coughing brrrthis is the spacer u want to cut down 5mm to get more thread uptopin the bench u get an idea now how muchthis 1 is for bimotoman *as requester when u cut the spacers make sure when u finish they are equal length like this now my 2 rear coilovers are ready to fit this is what they look like will have to play with spring tension and height adjustershave a small issue :)ha ha so i made the holes on both for the starlet hub to fit here you can see my rooky mistake i should off taken equal out off both holes then this wouldn't of happened anyways i am not bothered i will just buy 3mm thick washers and make a small cut out in them problem solved :)-------------------------------------------------------measured the front coils for stock camber did a bit of a miss calculation on the previous 1s i then made a metal template for the holesnow using my template i dont need to dos around trying to align the holes and makes the job so much faster + i will have the template for future coils to :)-------------------------------------------------------- so i finished my fronts today *and made a pic how low they go with the helper spring removed ONLY 400mm tall *!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! while with the helper still in it its 485mm tal thats an extra drop off 8.5cm !!!!!!!!!!!here are how they are now set to softest and with the topmounts on *ready to fit so who ever does this in the future go and enjoy them ha ha Edited August 11, 2015 by 5e colin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zeldoz Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 That's amazing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TrisK Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 exactly as dan106 and my self started planning. we never finsihed it, so props to you colin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JamesD89 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) Just had a look at it on tgtt very clever and thrifty. Edited May 24, 2020 by JamesD89 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 thanks guys it seems there is the polo option to but they dont have screw off bits on the bottom a lad added to my thread on page 2 and 3 on tgtt and he done polo so if you want to know more have a peep there http://www.toyotagtturbo.com/forums/showthread.php?107505-the-budget-coilover-setup-for-starlet-(-185%A3-)-under-construction Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amjad Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 That's awesome man, props to you! You should start knocking these out ready to fit ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lawless Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 What's the ride like with these ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jim* Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Sticky this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 What's the ride like with these ? first 50 miles was horrendous no movement jesus it was really ruff especially with al the potholes the car was bouncing al over the place but now after 200miles they seem to soften a bit and absorbing the bumps a lot smoother in the beginning my nose kept on jumping in the air but now that smoothed out i am wel happy with them even tho there cheap !!!!! if 1 where to break its only 55£ a corner to replace :) will report back in several weeks on how they settled Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jim* Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Amazing find mate really was, think a lot of people will be purchasing some of these! Do the original top mounts for into them okay? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hou Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I assume these are just for looks as on VAGs they aren't the best known for handling/ride. The other issue is, what is the weight difference between the two cars? Won't the spring loads etc be setup for the heavier car Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 yes jim we are very lucky that our mounts just bolt on the fronts just bolt on no mod needed but on the rear we need to cut a bit off the coils spacer ontop you could leave it out altogether but thats to low for me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) I assume these are just for looks as on VAGs they aren't the best known for handling/ride. The other issue is, what is the weight difference between the two cars? Won't the spring loads etc be setup for the heavier car ha ha moderator thats a funny 1 our starlets are THE worst handling cars in the world ( there is no spring load u have to do this urselves !!!! ) the mk1 golf is identical on weight then the starlet but lighter upfront so the mk2 coils suit it right you can also adjust spring tension !!!!!!! and no its not for looks i am already flying faster its not because there cheap that they are shit there just fine for flying up the road Edited March 17, 2014 by 5e colin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hou Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 ha ha moderator thats a funny 1 our starlets are THE worst handling cars in the world ( there is no spring load u have to do this urselves !!!! ) the mk1 golf is identical on weight then the starlet but lighter upfront so the mk2 coils suit it right you can also adjust spring tension !!!!!!! and no its not for looks i am already flying faster its not because there cheap that they are shit there just fine for flying up the road You clearly haven't driven a citreon ZX, a MK1 Clio or a MK4 gold TDi in anger. Plus a well setup Starlet can handle really well, ask some of the guys that take them on track. And by the springs I was meaning how you get different spring rates or whatever they are to allow for the weight of the car (for ex, a MK4 golf set's springs on a 1.6 will be different to the TDI most likely because of the weight) You might be going faster, but are you comparing to standard spings or did you already have lowering springs? Just wondering out of pure interest, if it all works then fantastic idea Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nanglebadger Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I'm not really sure what you being a moderator has to do with anything lol. :unknw: Phil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hou Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I'm not really sure what you being a moderator has to do with anything lol. :unknw: Phil. Neither do I Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 You clearly haven't driven a citreon ZX, a MK1 Clio or a MK4 gold TDi in anger. Plus a well setup Starlet can handle really well, ask some of the guys that take them on track. And by the springs I was meaning how you get different spring rates or whatever they are to allow for the weight of the car (for ex, a MK4 golf set's springs on a 1.6 will be different to the TDI most likely because of the weight) You might be going faster, but are you comparing to standard spings or did you already have lowering springs? Just wondering out of pure interest, if it all works then fantastic idea 40mm on shocks i had and it handled horendouse mate , of-course 1 on coils is going to be a joy to drive in stock form there just shit thats just my opinion they use the same springs mate i emailed them for advice 1.4 to the 2.0gti i did not ask about diesal ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 I'm not really sure what you being a moderator has to do with anything lol. :unknw: Phil. ????? because i was talking to our mod !!!!!!!!!! get of your horse Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lawless Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Hmm seems like u could be on to a winner there be interesting to hear if they cope well enough Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nanglebadger Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) ????? because i was talking to our mod !!!!!!!!!! get of your horse i cant, my feet are stuck in the stirrups and i'm surrounded by Walkers, if I get off I'll get bitten and turned. Interesting write up nonetheless. some good research here, and a potentially cheaper solution for members to investigate. a cheaper coilie option is what these cars have been needing for some time. Phil. Edited March 17, 2014 by Nanglebadger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 ha ha no bother mate thanks for the compliment yes thats why i did it i could not afford genuine coils for starlet ( new ) so i started doing research i went to all kinds of brands nissan opel etc etc until i found the german dub forum where there where some measurements of golf so i was a bit lucky to find them then after i got referred to a thread on here where they attempted it with polo atleast now its out in the open it also seems when u order them for golf then the bottom bits bolt off and on polo 1s they are welded to the coils !!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richardc9052 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 So really the polo ones can't be lowered without changing the spring rate and the golf ones can Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 So really the polo ones can't be lowered without changing the spring rate and the golf ones can richard the way i see it is on the golfs you can set spring tension so you can keep the full shock travel or desired hardnes and on the polo you cant you just have to screw the spring al the way down and count on the springs without pre tension ?????? i might be wrong tho im new to coil setup Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snow Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) if you can't afford ready made coil overs i assume you won't be declaring these to the insurance.... good luck in a crash Edited March 17, 2014 by Snow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 what a stupid comment dude im fully declared on al my mods turbo , kit , fmic , fse , acis the lot if u have nothing better to say dont reply to my thread !!!!!! and no i cant afford ready made 800£ coilovers i have no job i did this for al those like me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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