thanks gents. @ Ryan - no music anymore bud no, stripped it all out, even the OEM speakers in the dash. the only music i want to hear in the car from now on is the turbo spooling and the dump valve going off. i'm in the search for response, and the easiest first step in that is improving power to weight. yes I have retained all the front plastics inside the car, but thats simply because i want the cockpit to be a semi-nice place to be, other than that, nothing in the rear but functional items. the aim of this project now is the improvement of response, not massive BHP figures, i wana get away from the bigger BHP cars before they then come screaming past me lol. for me its all about first to the speed limit, after that, the race is over. Phil.