my position is this ali buddy: it truly saddens me that we have reached this point. this has been brewing now for 12 months, this day was inevitable. the bottom line for me is this: i have made real friends and family in the EP community, and I want that to continue for years. I want to keep updating my build thread, and keep drawing inspiration from other people's builds, and reading how other folk are developing their projects and new ideas and new parts. this is a great community to be a part of, which is why you will see me mossying about both sites. there are vast amounts of politics at play, some of which have caused friendships to stupidly fall apart, its time all that bollox was finally knocked on the head and we just all got on with being a community and developing said community! Phil.